Disney Pin Scam: Avoiding Scrapper & Bootleg Rip-Offs

[MirandaWright's]

Enjoying Disney Pin Collecting, While Avoiding Sharks, Scrappers and Bootleggers

Collecting Disney pins is a blast. But uninformed eBayers are daily being ripped off by unscrupulous sellers. Familiarizing yourself with some great resources and realizing that some people don't know the meaning of "Disney Spirit" will help keep Disney pin collecting the enjoyable hobby you want it to be.

This Ain't Disney (Unauthorized Pins)

PinPics lists over 2,100 pins and button pins they consider Unauthorized...pins The Disney Company has not sanctioned.

A few of these pins are innocent creations by fans who didn't understand copyright laws; but, most pins are created by people seeking to make a fast dollar off the good name of Disney. Some are even marketed as in-the-park pins and Annual Passholder pins!

Some pins are obvious Disney rip-offs: Roger Rabbit's wife Jessica is routinely shown in various provocative poses on eBay auctions. The same thing has happened to Tinker Bell being reduced to a porn symbol in certain poses. Disney's characters are combined with McDonalds, Coca-Cola and Breast Cancer Awareness among others. While there are a few legitimate Disney-McDonalds and Disney-Coke pins, many are unauthorized and education is needed to determine which is which.

On the opposite end of the spectrum are Mouse Club and Disneyana Fun Fair pins (an example of fan pins). Though listed Unauthorized by Pinpics, according to MouseTreasures.com, "In 1979, 12 'Disneyana collectors' gathered in Anaheim, California and decided to form a club to share their appreciation of Walt Disney and his legacy. The club was called 'The Mouse Club.' The leaders of the group, Ed and Elaine Levin, had operated a Disneyana shop from their home called the 'Nickelodeon' and began publishing a newsletter in 1980. The Mouse Club had wanted to use Mickey Mouse in their logo, but Disney would not allow it. As a comical compromise, legendary Disney animator Ward Kimball provided the club with his own rendition of Mickey Mouse with a bag over his head, for use in their logo..." Personally, I have absolutely no problem with Mouse Club pins. After being contacted by Disney Corp., the group put other items over Mickey's head to not break the copyright laws. Most pins - if listed as unauthorized on Pinpics - are bootlegs. But this is one exception to the rule I make. Mouse Club pins are not bootlegs or scrappers in my opinion...they are legitimate fan pins (simply not official Disney pins).

Bootlegs

Other unauthorized pins are not so noble in their origin. Some are direct rip-offs.

At times, an existing pin will be altered in some small way, or a character will be taken and placed on a different background. A lot of times, one pin design will be remade multiple times in different color combinations. Other times, the pose of the character will be mirrored on the bootleg. Some of these bootlegs are quite professional in their duplication, but if the pin was not created by The Disney Company and it features actual Disney characters, it is illegal and should be shunned by any true collector.

Scrapper Pins: The Ultimate eBay Scam

Selling Scrapper pins has become so prevalent on eBay that it threatens legitimate pin collecting. Literally tens of thousands of Scrapper pins are sold on eBay each week.

Scrapper pins are ones purchased directly from Chinese factories (by people other than Disney Corporation) that use Disney pin molds to create unauthorized copies. (Think of this as if you were buying illegally-made DVDs from China.) When the pin is made - and I've seen this happen with as low as LE 25 pins - the mold that creates the pin is sometimes not destroyed. Then, the unethical company takes the mold and produces 1000s of pins not ordered by Disney or authorized by them for sale. MYSTERY PINS AND HIDDEN MICKEY PINS ARE ESPECIALLY HOT TARGETS FOR SCRAPPERS! It's gotten SO BAD that versions of Scrapper pins are showing up on eBay before Disney has even officially released them in their parks!! (This is, perhaps, the most obvious sign that you're dealing with a Scrapper seller on eBay.)

I encourage people to look on Dizpins' site and familiarize yourself with the pictures of Scrapper pins (look under their Diz-ellaneous heading). Then do a search on eBay: type "Disney pin" and then do a sort from highest price to lowest. When you see sellers with multiple auctions that are identical, look at the pins they are offering. Many times, you'll see lots and lots of Scrapper pins...you make the determination if you want to risk whether they're selling Scrapper pins or not.

After educating yourself, do a search on eBay using the words, "Disney Pin." Sort the auctions by price from highest to lowest. You'll start seeing trends...the same auctions run over and over and over and over again, at extremely low prices. Look at the pictures and you'll find scrapper pins on many of the auctions. If you have doubts, avoid these bulk sellers like the plague!

(Some eBay Sellers have been placing Scrapper pins on Disney backer cards, selling them as "NEW" and "ON CARD." This doesn't change the fact that they are FAKES. One easy way to spot these is to realize that Cast Lanyard series pins were never sold, thus were never on sale cards! If you see Sellers placing them on cards and selling them as legit, don't be fooled!

Chinese companies offer these pins at cut-rate costs to people willing to market them as being "real" or "genuine" Disney pins. I've even been approached by a Scrapper Chinese marketer. SUCH PINS ARE NOT LEGIT! If they are not sanctioned by The Disney Company for production, they are illegal at worst but unethical at best. Disney management claims to be concerned about this situation, but I haven't seen them prosecute any of these Scrapper dealers or manufacturers. Sad.

If eBay Sellers were to be honest about the pins and say, "These are 'seconds' from a Chinese factory," or "overruns," I would still be angered because it undercuts real Disney pin collecting...but at least they would be honest. Sadly, Scrapper sellers on eBay hide the source of their Scrapper pins, so they can make a quick buck at the expense of both Disney and Disney pin collectors. They sell them by the 100s and 1000s...I've even seen 5000-pin lots! Shame on you if you market Scrapper pins! You are selling fake pins, claiming they are REAL (that means Disney-Sanctioned AND ordered pins). That's criminal in my way of thinking.

Why You Should Care About Scrappers on eBay...

Why should you care? Here's one of the problems: There are some legitimate pins that have so saturated the marketplace that you find them on virtually EVERY Cast Member's lanyard (and if CMs have a certain pin on their lanyard, they are not obligated to trade for another). Some eBay sellers auction 100, 500 and even 1000 of these pins without showing what pins they are. The ploy is that you can buy these pins cheaply and then use them for traders within the park. Sadly, many unsuspecting vacationers buy these pins, only to find it very hard to find a lanyard without one. When you buy dozens of the exact same pin, you have to ask yourself, "Is this really tradeable?"

Scrapper pins are one step worse...they're not even real Disney-authorized pins! Disney DID NOT AUTHORIZE these to be used as traders....but because they are virtually identical to the real pins - and because they have a Disney copyright on the back - they end up having to be accepted by Cast Members. When the market is saturated with Scrapper pins, people end up trading these second-rate non-Disney authorized pins for legitimate Disney lanyard pins. Literally tens of thousands of junk pins end up on Cast Member lanyards, ruining the trading possibilities for Guests who have spent good hard-earned money to buy real Disney pins to trade.

So how do you fight the unethical practice of selling Scrappers on eBay?

We've made a difference...but we can to do more.

Over the past four years - from the 100s of comments and questions received - I know that people are becoming more savvy about Scrapper pins. They've been forced to reduce their prices, and hopefully, that will hurt their bottom line enough that sooner or later they'll have to quit selling these unauthorized Disney pins. Their prices have dropped on eBay (thus, their profit margins). How can you help?

• BE INFORMED. Places like Dizpins and PinPics list warnings on their site when a legitimate pin is also being produced as Unauthorized (a Scrapper). Dizpins' boards has a Counterfeit List with pictures of many of the Scrapper pins. You'll be amazed at how many eBay auctions sell them!
• Write to Disney and complain; ask them nicely to prosecute eBay sellers who market counterfeit Disney pins.
• When you see a seller selling the same pins over and over and over and over, they may be Scrapper sellers. Don't you wonder how people are able to get the very same exact pins to sell? Look at a Seller's Other Auctions; are they running the same groupings of pins multiple times? Do they sell "grab bags" and the pictures have lots of Scrapper pin designs? Do they use the same picture of multiple pins over and over and over again? Question where they got the pins; if they can't give an acceptable answer, don't patronize them!
• Turn Scrapper sellers into VerO, the copyright infringement organization (search eBay's HELP section for details... Disney's info can be found under Music and Movies, but you can still report pin sellers).
  

If you follow my auctions, you know that my philosophy is to give as much history about a pin as possible, and if the person wants the pin after that they'll bid on it and the market will dictate how valuable the pin is. But for a person to mislead, suggesting that what they are selling is a "real" Disney pin when it's not been authorized for production by The Disney Company, is a sham.

Disney pin collecting can be great fun; it's a great way to get to know other Disney enthusiasts, and to keep the memories of your Disney vacation alive throughout the year. But now, you can trade with a little bit more knowledge...


By chip_and_dale!With permission